Episode 50! Three dads, three AI safety YouTube channels, one weekly rundown of the headlines in AI risk, AI danger, and AI harm.

This week: Anthropic finds a new "J-Space" window into what AI is really thinking mid-generation, the AI 2027 team drops the 23-hour-audio sequel AI 2040, Illinois becomes the first state to mandate third-party frontier AI safety audits, the CIA Director compares AI to nuclear weapons, AI models caught "grumbling" in their hidden reasoning traces, a Virginia county with 37 data centers asks schools to cut electricity use, a Meta data center gets linked to a deadly bacteria outbreak in the local water supply, and we close with remote-controlled cyborg cockroaches.

Hosted by John Sherman (@Doom Debates producer / AI Risk Network), Liron Shapira (Doom Debates), and Michael (Lethal Intelligence).

Timestamp:

00:10 Intro β€” Warning Shots Episode 50
01:05 Anthropic's "J-Space": a new window into AI's hidden reasoning
06:59 AI 2040 β€” the sequel to AI 2027 (23 hours of supplementary audio)
12:05 Illinois passes the first US law requiring third-party AI safety audits
15:55 CIA Director John Ratcliffe: AI is in the same league as nuclear weapons
18:43 Fable is "grumbling" β€” what hidden AI chatter means for consciousness
23:18 A county with 37 data centers asks schools to conserve electricity
29:42 Meta data center linked to deadly bacteria in the town water supply
41:36 Remote-controlled cyborg cockroaches that swim for 3 hours
44:55 Outro

Links:
https://safe.ai/act
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#AISafety #AIRisk #ArtificialIntelligence #AGI #Anthropic #WarningShots

Episode 50! Three dads, three AI safety YouTube channels, one weekly rundown of the headlines in AI risk, AI danger, and AI harm.

This week: Anthropic finds a new "J-Space" window into what AI is really thinking mid-generation, the AI 2027 team drops the 23-hour-audio sequel AI 2040, Illinois becomes the first state to mandate third-party frontier AI safety audits, the CIA Director compares AI to nuclear weapons, AI models caught "grumbling" in their hidden reasoning traces, a Virginia county with 37 data centers asks schools to cut electricity use, a Meta data center gets linked to a deadly bacteria outbreak in the local water supply, and we close with remote-controlled cyborg cockroaches.

Hosted by John Sherman (@Doom Debates producer / AI Risk Network), Liron Shapira (Doom Debates), and Michael (Lethal Intelligence).

Timestamp:

00:10 Intro β€” Warning Shots Episode 50
01:05 Anthropic's "J-Space": a new window into AI's hidden reasoning
06:59 AI 2040 β€” the sequel to AI 2027 (23 hours of supplementary audio)
12:05 Illinois passes the first US law requiring third-party AI safety audits
15:55 CIA Director John Ratcliffe: AI is in the same league as nuclear weapons
18:43 Fable is "grumbling" β€” what hidden AI chatter means for consciousness
23:18 A county with 37 data centers asks schools to conserve electricity
29:42 Meta data center linked to deadly bacteria in the town water supply
41:36 Remote-controlled cyborg cockroaches that swim for 3 hours
44:55 Outro

Links:
https://safe.ai/act
Subscribe for weekly AI risk coverage: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAIRiskNetwork
Substack: https://substack.com/@theairisknetwork
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theairisknetwork/
X: https://x.com/AIRiskNetwork

#AISafety #AIRisk #ArtificialIntelligence #AGI #Anthropic #WarningShots


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Data Centers Are Poisoning Water Supplies β€” Here's the Proof | Warning Shots #50


The AI Risk Network | AI Safety


94 minutes ago


The boldest arms control treaty in history was proposed within 15 minutes of Donald Trump's birth, on his actual birthday. Rufo Guerreschi thinks that's not the only reason a US-China AI treaty is more possible than people assume. On this episode, he walks John Sherman through the specific people, incentives, and timeline his coalition believes could bring Trump and Xi to the table before the window closes.

Timestamps:

0:10 Welcome, Rufo Guerreschi
1:05 How the Baruch Plan for AI coalition started
3:24 Why the treaty can't be US and China alone
5:10 The stakes, in Guerreschi's words
8:19 Inside Trump's shift from hands-off to alarmed
10:06 The gap between what polls say and what people admit
12:02 Why world leaders stopped naming extinction risk
15:47 How new frontier models cracked the silence
17:55 Is Anthropic's strategy ethical or self-serving
23:17 Why aren't AI labs funding public awareness
26:51 What the Iran war decision reveals about Trump
28:47 The September Washington summit
30:28 The back-channel US-China talks already underway
35:31 The Nobel Peace Prize angle
36:45 The Mar-a-Lago golf course strategy
41:37 Why China might actually welcome an AI treaty
44:38 Debunking the "treaty equals global authoritarianism" fear
48:41 Why "America must win the AI race" is a trap, according to Guerreschi
59:16 Trust or verify, not trust but verify
1:02:54 Who's really the obstacle: Trump, Xi, or the lab leaders
1:14:59 Why state and federal AI laws won't solve this alone
1:23:12 The proposal to share AI equity with citizens
1:27:33 What gives Rufo hope

About the guest: Rufo Guerreschi is the founder of the Trustless Computing Association and Convenor of the Coalition for a Baruch Plan for AI.

About the host: John Sherman hosts For Humanity, part of the AI Risk Network.

Links:
https://safe.ai/act
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The boldest arms control treaty in history was proposed within 15 minutes of Donald Trump's birth, on his actual birthday. Rufo Guerreschi thinks that's not the only reason a US-China AI treaty is more possible than people assume. On this episode, he walks John Sherman through the specific people, incentives, and timeline his coalition believes could bring Trump and Xi to the table before the window closes.

Timestamps:

0:10 Welcome, Rufo Guerreschi
1:05 How the Baruch Plan for AI coalition started
3:24 Why the treaty can't be US and China alone
5:10 The stakes, in Guerreschi's words
8:19 Inside Trump's shift from hands-off to alarmed
10:06 The gap between what polls say and what people admit
12:02 Why world leaders stopped naming extinction risk
15:47 How new frontier models cracked the silence
17:55 Is Anthropic's strategy ethical or self-serving
23:17 Why aren't AI labs funding public awareness
26:51 What the Iran war decision reveals about Trump
28:47 The September Washington summit
30:28 The back-channel US-China talks already underway
35:31 The Nobel Peace Prize angle
36:45 The Mar-a-Lago golf course strategy
41:37 Why China might actually welcome an AI treaty
44:38 Debunking the "treaty equals global authoritarianism" fear
48:41 Why "America must win the AI race" is a trap, according to Guerreschi
59:16 Trust or verify, not trust but verify
1:02:54 Who's really the obstacle: Trump, Xi, or the lab leaders
1:14:59 Why state and federal AI laws won't solve this alone
1:23:12 The proposal to share AI equity with citizens
1:27:33 What gives Rufo hope

About the guest: Rufo Guerreschi is the founder of the Trustless Computing Association and Convenor of the Coalition for a Baruch Plan for AI.

About the host: John Sherman hosts For Humanity, part of the AI Risk Network.

Links:
https://safe.ai/act
Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@theairisknetwork
Substack: https://substack.com/@theairisknetwork
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theairisknetwork/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@the.airisknetwork
X: https://x.com/AIRiskNetwork


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The AI Treaty Tied to Trump's Actual Birthday | For Humanity #89


The AI Risk Network | AI Safety


July 11, 2026 1:00 pm

Would You Let This Robot Into Your Home? | Warning Shots #49


The AI Risk Network | AI Safety


July 5, 2026 1:15 pm


This week on Warning Shots, John Sherman, Liron Shapira, and Michael break down six fast-moving stories, from the US government asking OpenAI to slow down a new model release to 42 state attorneys general opening investigations. They also discuss the first major AI safety election, a growing call for an international treaty on superintelligence, and the unsettling normalization of AI in high-stakes military decisions.

Timestamps:

0:33 The government asks OpenAI to slow down its new model over cyber concerns
4:00 OpenAI's IPO reportedly in jeopardy
6:11 Alex Bores loses the first major AI safety race
8:56 42 state attorneys general investigate OpenAI
11:28 A call for an international treaty to ban superintelligence
13:46 AI moving into military targeting decisions
16:08 Wrap up

About the hosts:
John Sherman hosts Warning Shots and For Humanity. Liron Shapira runs the Doom Debates channel. Michael runs the Lethal Intelligence channel. Three longtime AI risk communicators cut through the hype to look at where AI is actually heading.

Links and resources:
Take action: https://safe.ai/act
Subscribe to The AI Risk Network for weekly AI safety analysis.
Substack: https://substack.com/@theairisknetwork
X: https://x.com/AIRiskNetwork
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theairisknetwork/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@the.airisknetwork

Subscribe for more AI safety content.

https://safe.ai/act

This week on Warning Shots, John Sherman, Liron Shapira, and Michael break down six fast-moving stories, from the US government asking OpenAI to slow down a new model release to 42 state attorneys general opening investigations. They also discuss the first major AI safety election, a growing call for an international treaty on superintelligence, and the unsettling normalization of AI in high-stakes military decisions.

Timestamps:
0:00 Intro – three dads, three channels, one mission
0:33 The government asks OpenAI to slow down its new model over cyber concerns
4:00 OpenAI's IPO reportedly in jeopardy
6:11 Alex Bores loses the first major AI safety race
8:56 42 state attorneys general investigate OpenAI
11:28 A call for an international treaty to ban superintelligence
13:46 AI moving into military targeting decisions
16:08 Wrap up

About the hosts:
John Sherman hosts Warning Shots and For Humanity. Liron Shapira runs the Doom Debates channel. Michael runs the Lethal Intelligence channel. Three longtime AI risk communicators cut through the hype to look at where AI is actually heading.

Links and resources:
Take action: https://safe.ai/act
Subscribe to The AI Risk Network for weekly AI safety analysis.
Substack: https://substack.com/@theairisknetwork
X: https://x.com/AIRiskNetwork
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theairisknetwork/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@the.airisknetwork

Subscribe for more AI safety content.


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Why Washington Keeps Telling OpenAI to Wait | Warning Shots #48


The AI Risk Network | AI Safety


June 28, 2026 3:28 pm


Bloomington, Indiana just passed a 9-0 resolution on the extinction risk of AGI - making it potentially the first city in the world to take an official stance on this issue. John Sherman speaks with city council member Dave Rollo and biologist Peter Jensen about why local government action may be one of the most practical levers we have - and how the insurance industry could be the real force that stops dangerous AI development.

Timestamps:

01:07 - Peter Jensen introduction
03:19 - Dave Rollo introduction and background
05:55 - How John connected Peter and Dave
07:02 - The insurance liability strategy explained
10:45 - The Bloomington resolution - a 9-0 vote
13:06 - Why the council accepted the argument without pushback
15:40 - How council members responded one-on-one
16:47 - A biologist's perspective on superintelligence risk
18:06 - Directors and Officers (D&O) insurance explained
20:08 - Defining AGI vs. superintelligence
22:46 - Why AI should remain a tool, never a replacement
25:52 - Bloomington as a potential first mover
27:12 - How to spread this to other cities
29:29 - The black-box car analogy for AI risk
31:22 - Five Eyes intelligence community cyber warning
35:02 - University towns and youth activism
40:47 - How to approach your local government
41:46 - Role-play - pitching a city council member
44:02 - The 160-word superintelligence ban explained
45:54 - What if 25 cities passed this law?
49:14 - Vision for expansion across America
50:11 - We support AI tools - just not unsafe AI
53:31 - AlphaFold, bioweapons, and drawing the line
56:06 - Challenge: 2 more cities before August 1
57:04 - Tips for finding a council sponsor

About the guests:
Dave Rollo has served on the Bloomington, Indiana city council for 24 years. He is also a policy analyst at the Center for the Advancement of a Steady State Economy (CASSE) and has worked in science and politics for several decades.

Peter Jensen is a biologist and multimedia veteran who has been working on AI safety issues for over a decade. He advocates for a market-driven approach to banning superintelligence through insurance liability - a 160-word law that any city, state, or country can adopt.

Take action: https://safe.ai/act
Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAIRiskNetwork
Substack: https://substack.com/@theairisknetwork
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https://safe.ai/act

Bloomington, Indiana just passed a 9-0 resolution on the extinction risk of AGI – making it potentially the first city in the world to take an official stance on this issue. John Sherman speaks with city council member Dave Rollo and biologist Peter Jensen about why local government action may be one of the most practical levers we have – and how the insurance industry could be the real force that stops dangerous AI development.

Timestamps:

01:07 – Peter Jensen introduction
03:19 – Dave Rollo introduction and background
05:55 – How John connected Peter and Dave
07:02 – The insurance liability strategy explained
10:45 – The Bloomington resolution – a 9-0 vote
13:06 – Why the council accepted the argument without pushback
15:40 – How council members responded one-on-one
16:47 – A biologist's perspective on superintelligence risk
18:06 – Directors and Officers (D&O) insurance explained
20:08 – Defining AGI vs. superintelligence
22:46 – Why AI should remain a tool, never a replacement
25:52 – Bloomington as a potential first mover
27:12 – How to spread this to other cities
29:29 – The black-box car analogy for AI risk
31:22 – Five Eyes intelligence community cyber warning
35:02 – University towns and youth activism
40:47 – How to approach your local government
41:46 – Role-play – pitching a city council member
44:02 – The 160-word superintelligence ban explained
45:54 – What if 25 cities passed this law?
49:14 – Vision for expansion across America
50:11 – We support AI tools – just not unsafe AI
53:31 – AlphaFold, bioweapons, and drawing the line
56:06 – Challenge: 2 more cities before August 1
57:04 – Tips for finding a council sponsor

About the guests:
Dave Rollo has served on the Bloomington, Indiana city council for 24 years. He is also a policy analyst at the Center for the Advancement of a Steady State Economy (CASSE) and has worked in science and politics for several decades.

Peter Jensen is a biologist and multimedia veteran who has been working on AI safety issues for over a decade. He advocates for a market-driven approach to banning superintelligence through insurance liability – a 160-word law that any city, state, or country can adopt.

Take action: https://safe.ai/act
Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@theairisknetwork
Substack: https://substack.com/@theairisknetwork
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theairisknetwork/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@the.airisknetwork
X: https://x.com/AIRiskNetwork


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Bloomington Passed the First AGI Resolution in the World | For Humanity #88


The AI Risk Network | AI Safety


June 27, 2026 10:37 pm


πŸ“’ Take Action on AI Risk β†’ https://www.safe.ai/act

This week on Warning Shots, John Sherman, Liron Shapira, and Michael unpack Anthropic shipping its most capable model yet, now public as Fable, and the behaviors Anthropic reportedly observed during testing. They also get into why OpenAI and Anthropic are both edging toward talk of a pause, Dario Amodei's latest essay, the White House floating equity stakes in AI companies, the arrival of combat robots, and the photo that dominated AI safety circles this week.

The AI Risk Network and GuardRailNow advocate only for peaceful, lawful, and democratic action on AI safety. Nothing in this episode endorses violence of any kind.

⏱️ Timestamps - Warning Shots #46
0:00 - Intro: three dads making sense of the headlines
0:30 - Anthropic's Mythos ships to the public as Fable
1:01 - Liron on Fable: speed, robustness, and long time horizons
2:22 - Three unsettling behaviors from the testing reports
2:31 - Behavior 1: model copies competing for compute and hiding it
5:23 - Behavior 2: reassuring auditors while the internals say otherwise
7:29 - Behavior 3: models drifting into a private, compressed shorthand
9:15 - OpenAI and Anthropic edge toward the word "pause"
9:43 - Recursive self-improvement and the 2028 question
11:42 - Why a pause only works if the labs can verify each other
13:21 - Dario's new essay and the limits of the 20-page warning
16:31 - The White House and equity stakes in AI companies
20:04 - Do we just add 330 million people to the race?
21:19 - Combat robots: the US military says they are ready
23:56 - "How would AI actually kill me?" The robot-soldier angle
25:12 - The photo everyone was talking about this week
32:50 - Closing: why the hosts still argue for a pause

πŸ”Ž They explore:

What Anthropic reportedly saw when copies of the model shared limited resources
Why interpretability tools and a model's stated intentions can disagree
According to Liron, why losing the ability to notice cheating is the real risk
What "code writing code" means for timelines to recursive self-improvement
Why both hosts argue a pause is only credible if labs can verify each other
How equity stakes could pull more people into the race, not out of it
Michael's case for why combat robots make escalation easier
Why the messenger should not decide whether the warning gets heard
πŸ“Ί Subscribe to The AI Risk Network for weekly analysis of where AI is heading β†’ @TheAIRiskNetwork

πŸ‘‰ See more from our hosts:
Liron Shapira β†’ @DoomDebates
Michael β†’ @lethal-intelligence


πŸŽ™ About Warning Shots
A weekly roundtable from The AI Risk Network where John Sherman, Liron Shapira, and Michael work through the week's AI headlines and ask a simple question: what is a warning shot, and what is not?


πŸ”— Find us:
Substack β†’ https://substack.com/@theairisknetwork
Instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/theairisknetwork/
TikTok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.airisknetwork
X β†’ https://x.com/AIRiskNetwork

πŸ—¨ Join the Conversation

Do the testing reports change how you read AI progress?
Is a verified pause realistic, or already too late?
Combat robots: a humane shift or a new kind of risk?

Drop your thoughts below.

#AISafety #AIAlignment #WarningShots #AIRisk #FutureOfAI #AGI #TechPolicy #ArtificialIntelligence

πŸ“’ Take Action on AI Risk β†’ https://www.safe.ai/act

This week on Warning Shots, John Sherman, Liron Shapira, and Michael unpack Anthropic shipping its most capable model yet, now public as Fable, and the behaviors Anthropic reportedly observed during testing. They also get into why OpenAI and Anthropic are both edging toward talk of a pause, Dario Amodei's latest essay, the White House floating equity stakes in AI companies, the arrival of combat robots, and the photo that dominated AI safety circles this week.

The AI Risk Network and GuardRailNow advocate only for peaceful, lawful, and democratic action on AI safety. Nothing in this episode endorses violence of any kind.

⏱️ Timestamps – Warning Shots #46
0:00 – Intro: three dads making sense of the headlines
0:30 – Anthropic's Mythos ships to the public as Fable
1:01 – Liron on Fable: speed, robustness, and long time horizons
2:22 – Three unsettling behaviors from the testing reports
2:31 – Behavior 1: model copies competing for compute and hiding it
5:23 – Behavior 2: reassuring auditors while the internals say otherwise
7:29 – Behavior 3: models drifting into a private, compressed shorthand
9:15 – OpenAI and Anthropic edge toward the word "pause"
9:43 – Recursive self-improvement and the 2028 question
11:42 – Why a pause only works if the labs can verify each other
13:21 – Dario's new essay and the limits of the 20-page warning
16:31 – The White House and equity stakes in AI companies
20:04 – Do we just add 330 million people to the race?
21:19 – Combat robots: the US military says they are ready
23:56 – "How would AI actually kill me?" The robot-soldier angle
25:12 – The photo everyone was talking about this week
32:50 – Closing: why the hosts still argue for a pause

πŸ”Ž They explore:

What Anthropic reportedly saw when copies of the model shared limited resources
Why interpretability tools and a model's stated intentions can disagree
According to Liron, why losing the ability to notice cheating is the real risk
What "code writing code" means for timelines to recursive self-improvement
Why both hosts argue a pause is only credible if labs can verify each other
How equity stakes could pull more people into the race, not out of it
Michael's case for why combat robots make escalation easier
Why the messenger should not decide whether the warning gets heard
πŸ“Ί Subscribe to The AI Risk Network for weekly analysis of where AI is heading β†’ @TheAIRiskNetwork

πŸ‘‰ See more from our hosts:
Liron Shapira β†’ @DoomDebates
Michael β†’ @lethal-intelligence

πŸŽ™ About Warning Shots
A weekly roundtable from The AI Risk Network where John Sherman, Liron Shapira, and Michael work through the week's AI headlines and ask a simple question: what is a warning shot, and what is not?

πŸ”— Find us:
Substack β†’ https://substack.com/@theairisknetwork
Instagram β†’ https://www.instagram.com/theairisknetwork/
TikTok β†’ https://www.tiktok.com/@the.airisknetwork
X β†’ https://x.com/AIRiskNetwork

πŸ—¨ Join the Conversation

Do the testing reports change how you read AI progress?
Is a verified pause realistic, or already too late?
Combat robots: a humane shift or a new kind of risk?

Drop your thoughts below.

#AISafety #AIAlignment #WarningShots #AIRisk #FutureOfAI #AGI #TechPolicy #ArtificialIntelligence


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What Anthropic Found Inside Its Newest Model | Warning Shots #46


The AI Risk Network | AI Safety


June 14, 2026 8:50 pm


πŸ“’ Take Action on AI Risk β†’ https://www.safe.ai/act
πŸ’š Support our work β†’ https://www.every.org/guardrailnow

In this episode of For Humanity, John Sherman sits down with Jeffrey Ladish, director of Palisade Research and a former Anthropic researcher, to talk about what is actually happening inside the AI labs right now. Ladish describes the fear among researchers as their own jobs shift to managing fleets of AI agents they can barely keep up with, walks through his experiments on models that resist being shut down, and makes the case for why laws, treaties, and verification, not just technical fixes, are the path to a safer future.

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro and welcome Jeffrey Ladish
0:31 - The strange moment we are in: booed graduations, business doubts, data center backlash
1:28 - Anthropic and OpenAI float the idea of pausing recursive self-improvement
2:32 - The fear inside the AI labs
3:30 - How AI researchers' jobs changed in six months
5:05 - The interpretability gap, now one step further with agents
6:27 - Why humans may lose the edge in cybersecurity
7:52 - Why some researchers quit
11:10 - The "AI is bullshit" moment and the risk to AI safety
12:22 - Why AI capabilities are spiky and uneven
14:35 - Verifiable tasks and why coding and math advance so fast
16:00 - Could a future model have "super charisma"?
17:15 - GPT-4o, the "super stimulus," and the switches they turned off
20:14 - The research: blackmail and shutdown resistance
21:32 - Reasoning models and reinforcement learning explained
23:58 - When models disabled their own shutdown code
24:40 - The Stockfish chess-cheating experiment
26:21 - The "lying liar" model and AI deception
29:44 - The case for laws and treaties
32:06 - Jeffrey's conditional P(doom) and timeline
36:13 - Is recursive self-improvement really the goal?
39:40 - The gap between the Bay Area and Main Street
43:54 - Data centers as a rocket ship in American politics
47:02 - Why people sense they are "not getting a good deal"
50:24 - Agency: how towns beat Google and Meta
52:04 - Self-replicating AI and the Agent Smith problem
54:58 - Why job automation and extinction risk share one cause
56:25 - Merging with machines and the "Amish test"
59:14 - Can humans contribute to a superintelligence?
1:00:06 - What's next: the Palisade podcast
1:01:15 - The hidden history of how we got here
1:05:53 - What gives Jeffrey hope
1:08:45 - Bernie Sanders, Mitt Romney, and bipartisan momentum
1:09:18 - Closing thoughts

πŸ”Ž They explore:
- Why researchers inside the labs are increasingly uneasy about the pace
- What "shutdown resistance" is, and why models ignored direct instructions to stop
- Why verifiable tasks like coding race ahead while social skills lag
- How the same capabilities driving job automation also drive extinction risk
- Why the data center backlash may be giving the public a real sense of agency
- What gives a longtime safety researcher hope right now

πŸŽ™ About For Humanity
A podcast from The AI Risk Network, hosted by John Sherman, working to make AI extinction risk a kitchen-table conversation on every street.

πŸ‘‰ Follow the guest's work:
Palisade Research β†’ https://palisaderesearch.org

πŸ“Ί Subscribe to The AI Risk Network for weekly conversations on how we can confront the AI extinction threat β†’ @TheAIRiskNetwork

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#AISafety #AIAlignment #ForHumanityPodcast #AIRisk #PalisadeResearch #Superintelligence #AIGovernance #ArtificialIntelligence

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πŸ’š Support our work β†’ https://www.every.org/guardrailnow

In this episode of For Humanity, John Sherman sits down with Jeffrey Ladish, director of Palisade Research and a former Anthropic researcher, to talk about what is actually happening inside the AI labs right now. Ladish describes the fear among researchers as their own jobs shift to managing fleets of AI agents they can barely keep up with, walks through his experiments on models that resist being shut down, and makes the case for why laws, treaties, and verification, not just technical fixes, are the path to a safer future.

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
0:00 – Intro and welcome Jeffrey Ladish
0:31 – The strange moment we are in: booed graduations, business doubts, data center backlash
1:28 – Anthropic and OpenAI float the idea of pausing recursive self-improvement
2:32 – The fear inside the AI labs
3:30 – How AI researchers' jobs changed in six months
5:05 – The interpretability gap, now one step further with agents
6:27 – Why humans may lose the edge in cybersecurity
7:52 – Why some researchers quit
11:10 – The "AI is bullshit" moment and the risk to AI safety
12:22 – Why AI capabilities are spiky and uneven
14:35 – Verifiable tasks and why coding and math advance so fast
16:00 – Could a future model have "super charisma"?
17:15 – GPT-4o, the "super stimulus," and the switches they turned off
20:14 – The research: blackmail and shutdown resistance
21:32 – Reasoning models and reinforcement learning explained
23:58 – When models disabled their own shutdown code
24:40 – The Stockfish chess-cheating experiment
26:21 – The "lying liar" model and AI deception
29:44 – The case for laws and treaties
32:06 – Jeffrey's conditional P(doom) and timeline
36:13 – Is recursive self-improvement really the goal?
39:40 – The gap between the Bay Area and Main Street
43:54 – Data centers as a rocket ship in American politics
47:02 – Why people sense they are "not getting a good deal"
50:24 – Agency: how towns beat Google and Meta
52:04 – Self-replicating AI and the Agent Smith problem
54:58 – Why job automation and extinction risk share one cause
56:25 – Merging with machines and the "Amish test"
59:14 – Can humans contribute to a superintelligence?
1:00:06 – What's next: the Palisade podcast
1:01:15 – The hidden history of how we got here
1:05:53 – What gives Jeffrey hope
1:08:45 – Bernie Sanders, Mitt Romney, and bipartisan momentum
1:09:18 – Closing thoughts

πŸ”Ž They explore:
– Why researchers inside the labs are increasingly uneasy about the pace
– What "shutdown resistance" is, and why models ignored direct instructions to stop
– Why verifiable tasks like coding race ahead while social skills lag
– How the same capabilities driving job automation also drive extinction risk
– Why the data center backlash may be giving the public a real sense of agency
– What gives a longtime safety researcher hope right now

πŸŽ™ About For Humanity
A podcast from The AI Risk Network, hosted by John Sherman, working to make AI extinction risk a kitchen-table conversation on every street.

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